Template talk:Getting started sidebar

The "Getting started" sidebar contains two categories: (1) Personal finance; (2) Investing. Based on this, investing is not part of personal finance (and, on the Bogleheads wiki, their personal finance planning start-up kit makes no mention of investing; they have another start-up kit for investing). But the "Personal finance" category of the "Getting started" sidebar contains the "Creating a financial plan" article, which is partly about investing, partly about personal finance. So that's a bit confusing. Also the "Creating a financial plan" article contains excellent material, but it's very long, any could have more references. Maybe this article should be split in two, one about personal finance and another about investing? How this intereacts with the "Getting started" article is not clear to me. --Quebec 16:02, 8 February 2015 (MST)
 * Personal finance is a top-level topic which contains investing (among other things). The menu is not amenable to showing hierarchy, but investing is a distinct topic in its own right. Investing is shown after Personal finance because it's done after you've figured out your financial plan... which leads to:
 * Creating a financial plan - I agree that financial planning covers many individual topics. However, it's important to show the sequence. The very first thing you do is create a plan. Then, you follow a process to prepare for investing and follow-through. Breaking the article into two or more new articles will disrupt the flow - an important part of the tutorial process. --LadyGeek 18:17, 8 February 2015 (MST)
 * Yeah, I know that investing is part of personal finance, but the sidebar separates investing from personal finance, because it's one of the major topics and deserves a lot of attention. I like the two distinct start-up kits on the Bogleheads wiki. The reader goes through two series of (hopefully relatively short and digestible) articles, rather than a very long article which tries to cover everything. Anyway, there is no rush, something to think about for the future. --Quebec 06:28, 9 February 2015 (MST)